[Winpcap-users] Query Regarding WinPcap 4.0.2.

Gianluca Varenni gianluca.varenni at cacetech.com
Mon Nov 24 17:31:22 GMT 2008


Naveen,

the source code of the installer and further information on how the installation process works is not public. The main reason behind that is that WinPcap does not support side-by-side execution, i.e. you cannot have multiple versions installed on the same machine. And debugging broken installations of WinPcap due to custom home made installers screwing up a possible already installed version of WinPcap (or all the possible combinations of custom vs official installer) is always a major pain in the neck. 

I suggest you to embed the WinPcap installer within your application installer.

Have a nice day
GV
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Naveen Kumar R 
  To: winpcap_users ORG 
  Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 5:51 AM
  Subject: RE: [Winpcap-users] Query Regarding WinPcap 4.0.2.


  Hi GV,

  Thanks for the information. I have identified other dll's which comes with the winpcap.

  I have some concerns with the winpcap installation. Basically i don't want to install the winpcap dll's with the winpcap installer , I will extract WinPcap DLLs from each OS flavours in our R n D machines, and i want to bundle these DLL files with my application. during the time of my application installation. I will identify the OS and copy the related drivers and DLLs. I am able to copy Drivers and DLL to the correct location and am able to load winpcap dlls from my application dll. But the problem here is from the interfaces i am able to get the Device Count as 0 (Means Interface is not returning Correct Value, Basically interface is failing) and i have added the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\NPF key to the registry too , still the device count returning 0 (may be the winpacp dll's not able to get the Driver details correctly).

  Instead of manually copying all the DLLs, if i install winpcap dll's through the winpcap installer it is working 100 % fine.(able to get the device count which is available in the same machine)

  Basically i want to know if there are any other steps that i have to take care so that it will be in sync as doing with winpcap installer.

  Please Help me in this concern.

  Thanks,
  Naveen


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  From: gianluca.varenni at cacetech.com
  To: winpcap-users at winpcap.org
  Subject: Re: [Winpcap-users] Query Regarding WinPcap 4.0.2.
  Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 12:15:51 -0800


  So you want to have WinPcap (4.0.2) installed on your machine, but then you want to keep wpcap.dll into your application folder, also. Right?

  Please consider that WinPcap is not just wpcap.dll, it uses at least one other DLL, packet.dll (and packet.dll depends on the specific version of Windows that you are running).

  Have a nice day
  GV
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Naveen Kumar R 
    To: winpcap_users ORG 
    Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 4:26 AM
    Subject: RE: [Winpcap-users] Query Regarding WinPcap 4.0.2.


    Hi GV,
     
    Thanks for your detail Information.
     
    I want to copy wpcap.dll other than sysWOW64 because i dont want to copy the dll to the system directories.i want to retain the 3rdparty dll in my application directory.
     
    previous version of Wpcap.dll (3.0.0.18) is alaways available in my Application directory(C:\MyAPP\APPDLL\wpcap.dll), i am able to load the same with the loadlibrary("C:\MyAPP\APPDLL\wpcap.dll)") API. if i replace the newer dll (wpcap.dll of version 4.0.2), my application dll wont load this version of DLL. that's the reason i asked the newer version is having any new caveats that it should always available in the syswow64 Directory. 
     
    Regarding npf.sys you had suggested that it should always present in the c:\windows\system32\drivers, so i will use the same location to copy the npf.sys driver.
     
    with your inputs, i will drop the use of silent installation. IF you have any concern please let me know.
     
    Thanks,
    Naveen 


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    From: gianluca.varenni at cacetech.com
    To: winpcap-users at winpcap.org
    Subject: Re: [Winpcap-users] Query Regarding WinPcap 4.0.2.
    Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 07:41:09 -0800



    First of all, a bit of clarification on how the "system32" folder works on 64bit systems.

    Physically, on a 64bit system, the core dlls are stored into two folders:
    - c:\windows\system32 contains the 64bit version of the core DLLs.
    - c:\windows\sysWOW64 contains the 32bit version of the same core DLLs.

    The drivers always reside under c:\windows\system32\drivers, because on a 64bit machine all the kernel mode drivers should be 64bit.

    When a 32bit application runs on a 64bit system, the OS uses a file system redirector, so that all the requests (done by the 32bit application) to a file in c:\windows\system32 get redirected to c:\windows\sysWOW64

    Going back to WinPcap (4.0.2), on a 64 bit system npf.sys resides in c:\windows\system32\drivers (because it's a 64bit driver) and all the user mode DLLs reside in c:\windows\sysWOW64 (since they are 32bit DLLs). 

    I don't know exactly why you want to move wpcap.dll to another folder, but it should definitely work with these caveats:
    - you CANNOT copy wpcap.dll into c:\windows\system32, where the 64bit OS DLLs are located. Your application will never be able to access that folder because it's hidden by the FS redirector (this is not 100% true, as there is a way to disable the FS redirector)
    - if you try to load wpcap.dll located in c:\windows\sysWOW64 (i.e. the default install location), you need to do LoadLibrary("C:\\windows\\system32\\wpcap.dll", 0). 

    Regarding npf.sys, that file should always reside in c:\windows\system32\drivers

    Regarding a silent version of the installer, for a number of reasons this option is not available.

    Have a nice day
    GV





    ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: naveen kumar 
      To: winpcap-users at winpcap.org 
      Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 6:45 AM
      Subject: [Winpcap-users] Query Regarding WinPcap 4.0.2.



      Hi All,

      I have a query regarding the winpcap 4.0.2. my application is using for pocket capturing using winpcap and nps.sys driver. Previously I was using the winpcap 3.0.0.18 in my application it was working fine for me for both windows 2000 and windows 2003 32 bit OS. 

      I want to support my application on windows server 2003 64 bit OS and windows vista , so i used the winpcap latest version 4.0.2 with my application.

      My application dll uses the load library windows api to load the wpcap.dll. If i copy this wpcap.dll to the sysWOW64 directory my dll will perfectly load the wpcap.dll and it will also load the npf.sys from system32\drivers directory and rest of the things work fine. but my application dll is failing to load the 4.0.2 wpcap.dll, if i copy the dll to directory other than system32 in the 64 bit OS of windows server 2003, even though i am giving the absolute path of the location to load wpcap.dll in loadlibrary API. 

      if i use the wpcap.dll of version 3.0.0.18 in location other than sysWOW64 my Application dll loads the wpcap.dll, but it fails to load the npf.sys driver from the same location where dll is present. 

      My query is wheather the latest wpcap.dll and npf.sys should always available in the sysWOW64 and system32\drivers directory for the 64 bit windows 2003?


      One more Query 
      is it possible to run the Winpcap installation as a silent installation? 

      If you have any concerns please let me know. Thanks in advance.

      Regards,
      Naveen


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